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Ben Daley
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September 12, 2025
“If we’re going to give students a standardized test and make the results public, first we need to give the test to all the legislators and make the results public.” My mentor Larry Rosenstock always says, “Before we give students a standardized test and make the results public, first we should give it to all the parents and make it public, then give it to all the teachers and make it public, then give it to all the administrators and make it public, and then give it to all the legislators and make it public. If anyone is still paying attention, then we can give it to the students and make it public.” My friendly addition is more practical if not as humorous: If you’re considering giving a standardized test to a student, first take the test yourself. Ask yourself, does this test measure something I care about? Not in the abstract, like “yes, I care about literacy.” Like, look at the actual questions. The ones that were crafted in the basement of the Pearson factory. Do these questions actually measure what is important? And if the answer is no, why would you give a student such a test?
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September 12, 2025
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Ms. Athea Brathwaite
Educator at NYCDOE
4 months ago
Besides laughing repeatedly, all I will say is ASHAY!!! Anything more as a first response would not be better than the kind way B. Daley wrote the points needed to be make.
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Cris Tovani
Author/Teacher/Professional Learning Secondary Literacy
4 months ago
I love these ideas, Ben. I feel certain that there are many adults in position of power that would do so hot on the tests we give kids. Thinking about what we are trying to assess and why it matters, needs to come first.
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Ilya Kipnis
Quant researcher, data scientist, Climatebase fellow, trader, machine learning professional. R instructor, Python, SQL
4 months ago
I would contend that this is not a good way to look at things. Some questions, such as in the verbal portion of the test, with some obscure answer, might be testing not necessarily for knowing the exact definition of a word, but the ability to deduce the correct answer between context clues and process of elimination, for instance. Some analogy questions might test for whether or not the individual can correctly establish the relationship between the words--I.E. wheel : car might have an answer of leg : person, as in a wheel is part of a car, just as a leg is part of a person. With regards to the quantitative part, while there are certainly professions that will make use of geometry, quantitative literacy is exactly where some of the highest-paid professions are found. Saying "where does the common man use this math?" is a horrible question to ask--because leading edge technologies absolutely will need various forms of quantitative literacy, and far beyond the kind found on standardized high school tests. Those are just the *tip* of the iceberg. If someone can't hack that, what chance do they have of competing against places like China, where education is *drilled* into the populace?
“We tried small schools, it didn’t work.” In the early 2000s, the Gates Foundation put a bunch of money into creating new small schools and breaking down big high schools into smaller ones. I thought a lot of good work happened. Then after a few years, they released an evaluation that found that scores on bubble tests did not suddenly go up. For the past twenty years, if anyone says anything about small schools, someone will definitely say, “Not a good idea. Gates put money into small schools and it didn’t work.” Here’s Gemini’s summary, which after all is a reflection of what you can find on the internet: “The Gates foundation’s small high school initiative had mixed results, with a RAND study finding little positive impact on student outcomes and graduation rates overall.” Here’s the thing. A couple of years after that first report, they issued a second evaluation that found all kinds of better outcomes for students in the smaller schools. Lower suspensions, higher attendance, better grades, better parent and student satisfaction. However, the world had moved on and nobody read this report. Including our AI overlords, apparently. Now I’ve learned that the Gates Foundation has continued to follow those students to today. According to the latest evaluation, New York City small schools had a 10% higher graduation rate, 5% higher college enrollment, more engaged students, safer schools, and the schools were cost neutral. I recognize that I am trying to fight a communications war that is long since lost. Still though, in the spirit of evidence and accuracy, shout it with me from the rafters: “We tried small schools. It worked!”
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September 9, 2025
So, David Brooks used to think (https://lnkd.in/gEZBXyby) that schools need to put content knowledge acquisition in first position: “the cathedrals of knowledge and wisdom are based on the foundations of factual acquisition and cultural literacy. You can’t overleap that, which is what High Tech High is in danger of doing.” Now he thinks (https://lnkd.in/gYSryvmg) that this view of education is problematic:  “At [the] project-based-learning school, High Tech High in San Diego… the students get an education in what it feels like to be fully engaged in a project with others. Their school days are not consumed with preparing for standardized tests or getting lectured at, so their curiosity is enlarged, not extinguished.” Some people might point out that if you write one thing publicly and then later write the opposite, you ought to acknowledge the change in your viewpoint. Some people might point that out, but not me, because I’m bigger than that. As fellow proponents of the development of non-cognitive skills, I will demonstrate "emotional flexibility, social agility, and moral qualities" by welcoming you into the fold, David. P.S. If you want to learn about how to implement project based learning, how to develop student portfolios such as the ones from our friends at Big Picture Learning, how to develop student non-cognitive skills, and how to participate in the dismantling of the alleged meritocracy, join us at the Deeper Learning conference! (https://lnkd.in/gKaSvxm3)
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