“If we’re going to give students a standardized test and make the results public, first we need to give the test to all the legislators and make the results public.”
My mentor Larry Rosenstock always says, “Before we give students a standardized test and make the results public, first we should give it to all the parents and make it public, then give it to all the teachers and make it public, then give it to all the administrators and make it public, and then give it to all the legislators and make it public. If anyone is still paying attention, then we can give it to the students and make it public.”
My friendly addition is more practical if not as humorous: If you’re considering giving a standardized test to a student, first take the test yourself. Ask yourself, does this test measure something I care about? Not in the abstract, like “yes, I care about literacy.” Like, look at the actual questions. The ones that were crafted in the basement of the Pearson factory. Do these questions actually measure what is important? And if the answer is no, why would you give a student such a test?
Besides laughing repeatedly, all I will say is ASHAY!!! Anything more as a first response would not be better than the kind way B. Daley wrote the points needed to be make.
I love these ideas, Ben. I feel certain that there are many adults in position of power that would do so hot on the tests we give kids. Thinking about what we are trying to assess and why it matters, needs to come first.
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4 months ago
I would contend that this is not a good way to look at things. Some questions, such as in the verbal portion of the test, with some obscure answer, might be testing not necessarily for knowing the exact definition of a word, but the ability to deduce the correct answer between context clues and process of elimination, for instance.
Some analogy questions might test for whether or not the individual can correctly establish the relationship between the words--I.E. wheel : car might have an answer of leg : person, as in a wheel is part of a car, just as a leg is part of a person.
With regards to the quantitative part, while there are certainly professions that will make use of geometry, quantitative literacy is exactly where some of the highest-paid professions are found. Saying "where does the common man use this math?" is a horrible question to ask--because leading edge technologies absolutely will need various forms of quantitative literacy, and far beyond the kind found on standardized high school tests. Those are just the *tip* of the iceberg. If someone can't hack that, what chance do they have of competing against places like China, where education is *drilled* into the populace?